Ballroom Dance Rating System

NOTICE

This rating system has been updated to reflect the rising cost as well as some other factors based on some feedback. The gist of the change involves the weighting factors have been changed and both the value and dancability values have been given an upper limit of 10.  The mean rating of dances is 6.9 with a standard deviation of 1.1 based on the currently active dance pages. In April 2007, the snacks factor was removed due to more and more extreme variability among dances.

I've been trying to come up with a dance rating system that is relatively objective.  There are many subjective aspects to consider that do not lend themselves to easy quantification.   As a result of my somewhat unpleasant experiences with the dances at Mass MoCA, I have hit upon a couple of different rating numbers. This rating formula was revised in March 2006, and again in April 2007.  After the latest revision, the rating systems measures only two things.  The amount of dance and lesson time you get for the price and the freedom to dance unencumbered by other couples. It is NOT an attempt to provide a subjective rating of the pleasure of an "evening out". It is strictly a rating based for the ability to dance.  With a higher rating you will be able to dance more easily for a longer time at a lower cost.  If you are interested in the subjective aspects, look to the description, or send us in your review; it can be added to the guest book.

This rating system does not include such subjective factors as whether the dance features live bands or CD music, whether the music is well planned and varied, if requests are played, the general friendliness of the people who attend, the degree to which they pay attention to dance floor etiquette, how far one has to travel, whether the dance encourages attendance by individuals as well as couples, etc..  Bear all this in mind when you consider the rating. 

One measure is the "value" of a dance - how long you get to dance for what price.  My rating system begins with the concept of how much dance time is available for the price.  Lessons are a nice addition and contribute to the value of the dance for some of us, but I'm assuming that we go to dances to dance.  The majority of lessons that are given with dances I've attended benefit primarily the beginners or novices.  For most of us, the value of the dancing is more.  I've chosen to give a weighting of four to the dance and one for the lessons. Logic dictates that any such rating should go up as the time available is longer and go down as the price goes up.  In other words, the "value" of a dance should be directly proportional to the time available for dancing (and lessons) but inversely proportional to the cost. For my system, a weighted average of the dancing and lesson times is divided by the cost plus a "leveling" factor (and multiplied by a scaling factor).   It is not possible to rate a dinner dance because of the variation in services and cost.  The resulting value rating numbers range from a low of 4.9 to a high of 9.5 with a maximum of 10. A bigger number is a better value.  The actual formula is:

Value = scale.factor × ( 2 × lesson.time + 3 × dance.time)/(leveling.factor + price)

. I've chosen 11 as the scaling factor and 8 as the leveling factor.

Another rating measure is the "dancability" of a dance - how much space there is to dance in for the people who are dancing.  This rating criteria is based upon how "un-crowded" the dance floor is.  To compute this rating I divide the area by the "popularity" (average attendance). This is the amount of space or area for one person.  Multiply that by 2 and you get the area available for one couple.  From this figure I then compute the average distance between couples. The resulting number is the size of the space between couples - how much room you have to move into. The actual formula for this factor is:

sqrt( 2 × ( 2 / sqrt( 3 ) ) × area  / attendance ) - 2.

The first 2 is for two people to a couple, ( 2 / sqrt( 3 ) ) adjusts for the fact that more people can fit in the same area if they stagger rows, and, of course, taking the square root converts from area to distance. The final -2 accounts for the approximate diameter of a couple. (I measured my wife and myself together.)  With couples in closed dance position, this number is exactly the average space between couples.  However, neither factor is allowed to exceed 10, so as to keep the result in the 1 to 10 scale.

The higher the number the better the rating. Larger numbers are better for Quickstep and Tango; smaller numbers are acceptable for Latin or spot dances.  This measure does not take into consideration the fact that not everybody dances every dance.  The percentage of people that sit out a dance varies with the kind of dance music as well as the character of attendees.  Waltzes, Fox Trot, Cha-Cha, and Swing are quite popular at most ballroom dances.  The popularity of Hustle and Salsa varies with the local.  Quickstep is much less well known, and there's generally a much larger percentage of people who watch rather than participate - as a result, it tends to be featured much less or not at all in many places.  In some places, patrons will do swing to a quickstep and will prevent quickstep aficionados from dancing by blocking the lanes.  If you dance the Paso Doble, chances are you'll have the dance floor to yourselves in some areas (provided you can get the host to play one).  Consequently, this rating number represents an overall measure of how un-crowded the dance conditions are at worst case - with everybody dancing.  This number can also be exaggerated when the dance sponsors under-report attendance figures. 

To obtain an overall rating, I use the geometric mean of the value and space.  The geometric means prevents the final rating from being dominated by an extreme value.  If the space figure is not available, the rating uses a default value of 5.

The big "subjective" advantage of this rating system is that the results come out approximately on a 1 to 10 scale.

Here is the list of rated dances on this site.

"[But] don't forget the quality, diversity, plays requests, and overall comfort level of the other dancers and politeness of other dancers in your rating system - sometimes cold numbers just don't do it." -- Doug

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AdamsMA Fourth Saturday Ballroom Dance0.753.25$106.91600??????5.9
AdamsMA Quintessential Dance at the Adams Elks Lodge0.753.25$106.9512205.76.3
AdamsMA Wednesday Quintessential Practice Dance11.5$74.81600309.16.6
CheshireMA Social Ballroom Dance03$105.51000??????5.2
ChicopeeMA The Elks Saturday Ballroom Dance04$97.8???100???6.2
ChicopeeMA The Widows & Widowers club dance03$86.21600556.26.2
DaltonMA Social Ballroom Dance04$70Dinner*?????????Dinner*
variousMA Rockefeller Dances00$00.0?????????0.0
Great BarringtonMA Great Barrington Ballroom Dance04$402.83200??????3.7
Great BarringtonMA Great Barrington Tea Dance01.5$06.23200??????5.6
HadleyMA American Legion03.25$77.2750503.95.3
LeedsMA Northampton Country Club13$97.11000654.05.3
LenoxMA Lenox Quintessential Dance13.5$25Dinner*1700??????Dinner*
PittsfieldMA St. Stephens Parish with Champagen Jam03$105.5???40???5.2
LenoxMA Tuesday Quintessential Learn to Dance Practice Dance11.5$104.0?????????4.5
LudlowMA Gremio-Lusitano First Monday Ballroom Dance03$105.5???75???5.2
NorthamptonMA Wednesdays Sizzle02.5$56.3???100???5.6
NorthamptonMA Dance Northampton Monday Studio Dance02$64.720002010.06.9
NorthamptonMA Dance Northampton Friday Studio Dance13$87.62000408.78.2
NorthamptonMA Dance Northampton Saturday Studio Dance13$87.62000606.87.2
PetersburgNY Petersburg Quintessential Dance13$126.027004010.07.7
PittsfieldMA The Berkshire Ballroom chapter USA Dance0.753.25$135.932001006.66.2
PittsfieldMA Columbus Day Dinner Dance03$20Dinner*???150???Dinner*
PittsfieldMA The Best Ballroom in Berkshire County04$155.73200807.66.6
PittsfieldMA Spice Dance Party03$154.3?????????4.6
PittsfieldMA Tuesday Quintessential Practice Dance01.5$06.2?????????5.6
PittsfieldMA Berkshire Hills Country Club First and Third Sunday Dance13$126.01296406.76.3
SpringfieldMA Saturday Afternoon Tea Dance0.753.25$106.9?????????5.9
WestfieldMA The Acadamy Ballroom West13$106.7512??????5.8
AlbanyNY Underground Ballroom0.332$27.3625354.45.7
AlbanyNY Albany-Tula Aliance benefit03$100Dinner*10001002.8Dinner*
AlbanyNY Loraine Michaels Studio Swing dance0.673$58.72118666.67.6
AlbanyNY Loraine Michaels Studio Ballroom dance0.673$58.72118666.67.6
AlbanyNY Loraine Michaels Studio Latin dance0.673$58.72118666.67.6
Albany NY German-American Club of Albany04$6Dinner*900803.1Dinner*
AlbanyNY SOS Community Ballroom Dance0.53.5$107.018751004.65.7
AlbanyNY Sunday Night Ballroom Dances0.53$106.118751004.65.3
AlbanyNY NY Capital District chapter USA Dance0.753$125.81875805.45.6
AlbanyNY Thursday West Coast Swing Dance03$76.6?????????5.7
Averill ParkNY Crystal Cove Ballroom Dance0.753.25$155.42400806.35.8
Averill ParkNY Crooked Lake House Ballroom Dance0.752.75$106.019001004.65.3
Clifton Park NY Southern Saratoga YMCA02$55.1?????????5.0
CohoesNY Ballroomdance at the Ukrainian American Citizens Club13.25$107.22600558.47.8
CohoesNY Ballroomdance at the Ukrainian American Citizens Club0.753$106.42600707.36.8
CohoesNY Argentine Tango Milonga at the Ukrainian American Citizens Club04$15Dinner*2600??????Dinner*
Clifton ParkNY Shen Senior Center Second Saturday Dance03$86.22367409.77.8
Clifton ParkNY Shen Senior Center Last Sunday Dance03$57.62367409.78.6
ChathamNY PS/21 Dancing in the Orchard - with Live music0.53$106.1864405.15.6
AlbanyNY Danceland Boomers ballroom dance03$253.0?????????3.9
Glens FallsNY Second Saturday Adirondack chapter USA Dance12.5$125.232005010.07.2
LathamNY California Mix Dance at Malt River Brewery13.25$107.2780454.35.6
QueensburyNY Fourth Sunday Adirondack chapter USA Dance03$125.0112504010.07.1
SchenectadyNY LAllegro Dance Club Ballroom dance14$12.507.5???144???6.1
Saratoga SpringsNY Third Friday Studio Practice Dance03$57.6864159.58.5
Saratoga SpringsNY Third Saturday Big-band Dance0.53.5$155.5110002009.37.1
Saratoga SpringsNY Wednesday night dance02$55.11500308.76.7
Saratoga SpringsNY Gideon Dinner Dance00$0Dinner*?????????Dinner*
SchenectadyNY Eileen Spadaros Second and Fourth Saturday Studio Dance03$57.61855359.18.3
TroyNY Dance Crazy Annual Dinner Dance04$40Dinner*10002501.0Dinner*
West TaghkanicNY Hudson Valley Academy of Performing Arts Ballroom Dance03$105.51600407.66.5
BrattleboroVT Friday Latin or Ballroom Dance01.5$53.81250367.05.1
KeaneNH Annual Keane Jazz Orchestra Lets Dance03$105.58001201.93.3

Compute your own dance ratings

time for lessons
(1/2 hour = .5)
time for dancing
not including lessons
price of
admission
computed
value
dancable area
not including seating
average number
of attendees
Computed dancability
distance between couples
overall
rating
 
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